Need GB to win Oct. 9 pool. Advice please...

[bangminton]

It is indeed tough sledding, pacer...I don't know if you are only playing Pools with OLG or if you are still dabbling in Props, ProLine and PointSpread with them still but they have *intensified* the odds update this year.

I have had the Props odds changed while I am going to the stores or even right after I finished assembling the QR code, rendering the play unplayable. Like rich and Biffalo Buff said in the other threads, there have not been as many/any mistakes this year as last year when they were new to the digital platform.

Just connecting with some ex Cappers/TMBers on Twitter who play online with various books, things are not peaches and cream on that front either. The online books odds are very competitive so unless you know what you are doing, you will most likely be donating and if you win too much, they will severely restrict your wager or simply ban you outright.

Not sure what the solution is, moving forward, just thought I'd describe the current lay of the land to manage expectations, if you guys have not already experienced these issues yourselves.

[pacer]

Bang, still trying to grind out a few dollars comparing the Vegas lines/totals with the OLG. "Likely" hitting 65% % but with those payouts it is tough to show a profit. Usually get a free tank of gas at the end of the month with my Petro/Avion loyalty points. The pools is strictly for entertainment BUT I want to win it once!!! Good luck wherever/however you play

[bangminton]

All good pacer, it has become entertainment at its best now. Everyone is just swimming in different directions, trying to keep our heads above water, in this new and challenging climate.

I hope the other lads e.g. fanner, Grizz etc from TMB and Duke, ABB, etc from CM are doing well as well.

[richhhh]

Line comparison edges are becoming fewer and fewer. The sites you may need to use to find them are also guilty of eliminating the presence of them.
All these podcast/websites/so called helpful sources are all guilty of sharing scraps ie.. the edge plays that our dead or dead to them because they are limited. There is still plenty of ways to grind +ev thankfully they are not sharing.
There is so much to bet and so many options to evaluate.For instance Blocks/steals for nba which is not offered by pinnacle is likely weak. 2 years now and I have not got to it. Instead of comparing lines or listening to talking heads use that time maybe to look at that (let me know privately if its good haha)


OLG is frightened to take bets. For example I bet Quinn Hughes other day which was not off market. OLG dunno what to make of this so they will only offer him for proline+ (no instore). Quinn Hughes is over performing this year doubling his shot attempts currently

Comparing lines not very promising shown below even after accounting for shade....



SHOTS EDM CONNOR MCDAVID 3.5 u 2.05 -0.61% SHOTS EDM EVANDER KANE 3.5 u 1.65 -1.12% GOALS SEA Matthew Beniers 0.5 u 1.22 -1.33% GOALS VAN J.T. MILLER 0.5 u 1.38 -1.43% GOALS SJS FABIAN ZETTERLUND 0.5 u 1.17 -1.56% GOALS NSH LUKE EVANGELISTA 0.5 u 1.18 -1.58% SHOTS COL NATHAN MACKINNON 4.5 u 1.83 -1.69% ASSISTS MTL COLE CAUFIELD 0.5 u 1.33 -1.71% GOALS VAN ANDREI KUZMENKO 0.5 u 1.33 -1.78% GOALS MTL JOSH ANDERSON 0.5 u 1.25 -1.88% SHOTS DET DYLAN LARKIN 3.5 u 1.68 -1.96% SHOTS COL ARTTURI LEHKONEN 2.5 u 1.74 -1.97% GOALS SJS ANTHONY DUCLAIR 0.5 u 1.23 -2.01% GOALS COL CALE MAKAR 0.5 u 1.21 -2.06% GOALS SJS MIKAEL GRANLUND 0.5 u 1.15 -2.13% GOALS MTL COLE CAUFIELD 0.5 u 1.57 -2.13% ASSISTS NSH LUKE EVANGELISTA 0.5 u 1.22 -2.16% GOALS EDM LEON DRAISAITL 0.5 u 1.86 -2.21% SHOTS WPG ALEX IAFALLO 2.5 u 1.74 -2.26% GOALS SEA JARED MCCANN 0.5 u 1.35 -2.26% GOALS #N/A TOMAS HERTL 0.5 u 1.3 -2.27% ASSISTS COL NATHAN MACKINNON 0.5 u 2.3 -2.30% GOALS EDM CONNOR MCDAVID 0.5 u 1.95 -2.35% GOALS VAN ELIAS PETTERSSON 0.5 u 1.44 -2.37% GOALS MTL SEAN MONAHAN 0.5 u 1.28 -2.40% GOALS VAN BROCK BOESER 0.5 u 1.41 -2.41% GOALS WPG ALEX IAFALLO 0.5 u 1.31 -2.44% ASSISTS WPG ALEX IAFALLO 0.5 u 1.4 -2.47% SHOTS SJS FABIAN ZETTERLUND 1.5 u 2.55 -2.47% ASSISTS DET LUCAS RAYMOND 0.5 u 1.43 -2.50% ASSISTS SEA Matthew Beniers 0.5 u 1.41 -2.55% GOALS NSH THOMAS NOVAK 0.5 u 1.23 -2.57% GOALS COL NATHAN MACKINNON 0.5 u 1.86 -2.59% GOALS MTL NICK SUZUKI 0.5 u 1.33 -2.61% GOALS SEA JADEN SCHWARTZ 0.5 u 1.35 -2.63% GOALS NSH RYAN O'REILLY 0.5 u 1.28 -2.63% GOALS EDM EVANDER KANE 0.5 u 1.55 -2.68% GOALS DET LUCAS RAYMOND 0.5 u 1.27 -2.70% GOALS WPG NIKOLAJ EHLERS 0.5 u 1.28 -2.71% SHOTS WPG NIKOLAJ EHLERS 3.5 u 1.52 -2.72% ASSISTS EDM LEON DRAISAITL 0.5 u 2.3 -2.73% ASSISTS #N/A TOMAS HERTL 0.5 u 1.78 -2.74% GOALS SEA OLIVER BJORKSTRAND 0.5 u 1.26 -2.84% GOALS DET DAVID PERRON 0.5 u 1.28 -2.86% GOALS EDM RYAN NUGENT-HOPKINS 0.5 u 1.39 -2.88% ASSISTS SJS WILLIAM EKLUND 0.5 u 1.31 -2.89% ASSISTS NSH RYAN O'REILLY 0.5 u 1.35 -2.92% ASSISTS NSH FILIP FORSBERG 0.5 u 1.45 -2.93% GOALS CHI ANDREAS ATHANASIOU 0.5 u 1.13 -2.97% ASSISTS EDM CONNOR MCDAVID 1.5 u 1.52 -3.04% ASSISTS SJS MIKAEL GRANLUND 0.5 u 1.49 -3.09% ASSISTS SEA JARED MCCANN 0.5 u 1.28 -3.09% SHOTS TBL NIKITA KUCHEROV 3.5 u 2.15 -3.10% ASSISTS VAN ELIAS PETTERSSON 0.5 u 1.83 -3.10% GOALS WPG MARK SCHEIFELE 0.5 u 1.4 -3.10% SHOTS EDM RYAN NUGENT-HOPKINS 2.5 u 1.74 -3.11% SHOTS VAN ELIAS PETTERSSON 2.5 u 2.2 -3.12% GOALS COL ARTTURI LEHKONEN 0.5 u 1.33 -3.13% GOALS TBL NIKITA KUCHEROV 0.5 u 1.63 -3.23% GOALS NSH FILIP FORSBERG 0.5 u 1.4 -3.24% SHOTS WPG MARK SCHEIFELE 2.5 u 1.57 -3.26% ASSISTS WPG NIKOLAJ EHLERS 0.5 u 1.4 -3.31% ASSISTS VAN BROCK BOESER 0.5 u 1.45 -3.33% SHOTS NSH FILIP FORSBERG 3.5 u 1.7 -3.37% ASSISTS MTL NICK SUZUKI 0.5 u 1.55 -3.38% SHOTS DET ALEX DEBRINCAT 3.5 u 1.78 -3.40% ASSISTS SEA JADEN SCHWARTZ 0.5 u 1.31 -3.41% SHOTS SEA JADEN SCHWARTZ 2.5 u 1.83 -3.42% ASSISTS MTL SEAN MONAHAN 0.5 u 1.37 -3.44% ASSISTS VAN J.T. MILLER 0.5 u 1.68 -3.48% GOALS CHI TAYLOR RADDYSH 0.5 u 1.14 -3.49% GOALS TBL BRANDON HAGEL 0.5 u 1.34 -3.50% SHOTS SJS FILIP ZADINA 1.5 u 2.05 -3.53% ASSISTS COL CALE MAKAR 0.5 u 2.1 -3.54% ASSISTS SEA VINCE DUNN 0.5 u 1.55 -3.56% GOALS CHI TAYLOR HALL 0.5 u 1.24 -3.61% SHOTS MTL SEAN MONAHAN 2.5 u 1.57 -3.63% ASSISTS MTL Mike Matheson 0.5 u 1.49 -3.68% ASSISTS TBL NIKITA KUCHEROV 1.5 u 1.5 -3.68% SHOTS MTL JOSH ANDERSON 2.5 u 1.52 -3.68% ASSISTS NSH THOMAS NOVAK 0.5 u 1.37 -3.79% ASSISTS COL MIKKO RANTANEN 0.5 u 1.83 -3.79% ASSISTS DET MORITZ SEIDER 0.5 u 1.49 -3.81% GOALS WPG KYLE CONNOR 0.5 u 1.52 -3.87% SHOTS CHI SETH JONES 2.5 u 1.56 -3.88% ASSISTS WPG MARK SCHEIFELE 0.5 u 1.47 -3.93% SHOTS VAN J.T. MILLER 2.5 u 1.65 -3.94% ASSISTS EDM EVAN BOUCHARD 0.5 u 1.7 -3.94% SHOTS SJS WILLIAM EKLUND 1.5 u 2.15 -4.00% SHOTS NSH THOMAS NOVAK 1.5 u 2.1 -4.00% SHOTS VAN BROCK BOESER 2.5 u 1.9 -4.00% GOALS TBL BRAYDEN POINT 0.5 u 1.59 -4.06% ASSISTS COL ARTTURI LEHKONEN 0.5 u 1.57 -4.06% SHOTS TBL VICTOR HEDMAN 2.5 u 1.71 -4.22% GOALS DET ALEX DEBRINCAT 0.5 u 1.45 -4.26% ASSISTS EDM RYAN NUGENT-HOPKINS 0.5 u 2.4 -4.40% SHOTS NSH RYAN O'REILLY 1.5 u 2.3 -4.42% ASSISTS CHI SETH JONES 0.5 u 1.42 -4.47% SHOTS SJS ANTHONY DUCLAIR 2.5 u 1.68 -4.51% ASSISTS TBL MIKHAIL SERGACHEV 0.5 u 1.79 -4.53% GOALS DET DYLAN LARKIN 0.5 u 1.44 -4.66% SHOTS COL MIKKO RANTANEN 3.5 u 1.78 -4.70% SHOTS SEA Matthew Beniers 1.5 u 2.25 -4.85% SHOTS NSH LUKE EVANGELISTA 1.5 u 2.15 -4.88% SHOTS TBL BRAYDEN POINT 2.5 u 2.1 -4.91% ASSISTS TBL STEVEN STAMKOS 0.5 u 2 -4.95% SHOTS CHI TAYLOR HALL 2.5 u 1.6 -5.01% SHOTS SEA OLIVER BJORKSTRAND 2.5 u 1.7 -5.06% SHOTS MTL NICK SUZUKI 2.5 u 1.52 -5.06% SHOTS DET LUCAS RAYMOND 1.5 u 2.3 -5.24% GOALS COL MIKKO RANTANEN 0.5 u 1.83 -5.24% SHOTS SEA JARED MCCANN 2.5 u 1.95 -5.45% SHOTS COL CALE MAKAR 2.5 u 1.9 -5.69% ASSISTS DET DYLAN LARKIN 0.5 u 1.95 -5.93% SHOTS EDM LEON DRAISAITL 3.5 u 1.7 -6.53%

[bangminton]

Say good bye to all the ProLine rewards now rich.

Are you playing all of those NHL Props you listed as single wagers or parlaying them, for different games?

[pacer]

For my return (if any) likely making $.59 (the year I was born) per hour lol!!! Richhhhhh the man with the spread sheet . I called my excel sheet "the magic sheet" lol on my desk top. Not much magic these days

[richhhh]

Hey Bang why do you say no more rewards?

[bangminton]

Hey Bang why do you say no more rewards?

OLG has pulled all the rewards off their ProLine Points page, claiming new rewards will be coming but who knows what kind and when.

They have not restocked any gift cards (except for the ProLine prize pack) for about a week now. That's a long time especially with all the major sports where they offer rewards redemption (NBA, NHL, NFL) fully under way so people want to get their hands on sports merch.

They used to do so multiples times in a week, when they first started this program back in early September. That's not a good sign, rich.

I will believe when I see it (when they introduce new rewards or re-introduce the old ones).

[richhhh]

Yeah I noticed nothing has been restocked for awhile. Also that the nhl gift cards are in facted removed from site but we have seen this before and they came back. I have not read anything about rewards being done so still hope the gift cards on website get restocked.
Fyi they have started banning point accounts that have broken rules.

[bangminton]

Like I said I'll believe it when I see it, rich. Hope for the best and plan for the worst. Thanks for the heads-up about the crackdown on different accounts.

On another note, it doesn't look like many players are interested in NBA Props. There are only 2 games on tap tonight but for whatever reasons, OLG didn't offer any Props for the early game, starting at 19:10. I pinged them around 18:30 (busy day today) asking them what's going on and they released the card shortly after but I had no time to look at anything.

If it were that popular/profitable, other players would have notified OLG much earlier. Just an observation that's all.